Forget the barefoot running craze. For that matter, forget any other running shoe, and slip on a pair of Hoka One Ones. You’ll never go back.
Dave Mackey, 2011 North American ultrarunner of the year,
hitting the trail and the road in his Hoka One One shoes
Admittedly, I was intensely skeptical when a good friend of mine, Dave Mackey, suggested I try a pair of Hoka One One running shoes.
I mean, have you seen these things? Even to an anti-minimalist like me (no sandals or rubbery toe shoes touch these feet), they looked like broad and bulky clodhoppers. I was expecting a heavy, unstable shoe that would have me tripping over myself.
Don’t let looks deceive you, too, though, or you might deprive yourself of some of the best running of your life.
Lighter, More Stable, Lasts Longer
Depending on the model, the Hoka One One (pronounced Ho-kah Oh-nay Oh-nay, meaning “Time to Fly” in Māori) shoes weigh in somewhere between 10 and just over 11 ounces, about 15% LIGHTER than most. How do they do this? Turns out that the midsole is comprised of an ultralight, durable, stable (up to 20mm of compression) material that absorbs up to 80% of the shock caused by running. I asked around and discovered that the midsole foam is something new that the HOO crew figured out would make a great running shoe.
And although the tread looks like it isn’t aggressive enough, when I wore the shoes out on a trail, I started to think that the more surface area on the dirt the better, and more stability comes from a larger footprint as well as your foot sitting well down in the footbed. The grip of the shoe was some of the best I’ve encountered. Another pleasant surprise came when I was running on rocks: instead of stepping over and around, I suddenly felt confident and ran OVER the rocks, barely feeling them at all.
I pronate, and my usual shoes break down in less than 200 miles — and those are the ones with support for pronation. I noticed that the Hokas are a neutral shoe with the prescribed 4mm lift. So I ran and I ran, and I wound up getting about twice the mileage on these shoes with virtually no wear on the outer tread.
The more I ran with them, the more I liked them. I found myself covering about twice the distance with essentially NO muscle fatigue. The rocker-type construction allows the foot to settle into a natural heel-to-toe movement and improves form while you are running, which allows a faster recovery even when you’re coming off a hard training or racing event.
Now for the real proof in the pudding: Having run in these for several months, I forgot to put them in my car once. After driving to the start of my route, I found that I did at least have some old favorites in the backseat. Slipping them on and taking off down the road, I felt impact … much more than normal. Then the next day, my muscles were sore and my knees hurt for the first time in ages. I thought this was all in my head, but when it happened again, after forgetting them a second time, I knew I was onto something. And I knew I’d better get a few extra pairs of Hokas so that doesn’t happen ever again.
So are there any drawbacks? About the only thing that bothered me was the lacing on the uppers, but with a few tweaks I found that skipping an eyelet did the trick. But that’s not even an issue anymore: recently, when I got a new pair, I noticed that they’ve fixed the lacing system.
When I describe these shoes to other people, I usually say things like, “They are as close to riding a bike as you can get with a running shoe,” “They allow the foot to perform as if you were running without shoes at all,” “These are the bomb,” and “Finally! A running shoe that will change the industry for the better.”
Truly, give them a try, and you’ll thank me. I can’t imagine running in anything else.
Have you already tried any of the Hoka One One shoes? If so, which ones, and what was your experience?
8/13/12 Postscript: Hoka provided us with hiking boots for our Death Valley National Park circumnavigation, and they were up to the task and then some! The only bad news for folks in the U.S.: they’re not available for purchase here (yet).
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Marsh – do you know what the difference is between the “Stinson Evo Trail” and the “Stinson Evo Low”??
— thanks, Randi
For those asking about mileage. I just turned over 700 miles on my Stinsons. I am easy on shoes and they always wear evenly. For the last 150 miles or so I only did my short runs (6-8 miles) in them. I’ll probably be retiring them very soon.
Holy cow, them’s some miles.
Glad to hear that you like and got the high mileage from them!
I have been interested in them to see if they would relieve some of the pressure off my bad sesamoid. This blog is the final straw, I’m going to give them a go! Which Hoka style do I need to look at for the trails.
Chris, I love my Mafate IIs for trail AND for road. Nice wide shoe box and great cushioning. Good luck!
Wow! A friend just told me that the Hoka hiking boots are now available from Boulder Running Company for a steal (about $140): http://www.boulderrunningcompany.com/hoka-one-one-stealth-waterproof-boot.html
I’m starting to believe that cushioning is finally being recognized as the way all shoes should be constructed. I would like to see shoe manufacturers come out with novel ways of greatly reducing or eliminating shock. Having fresh legs the day after long runs should be the goal.
I agree: cushioning should be a function of a well-constructed shoe. That is to say, everything should not be left to good form, forefoot/midfoot/heel strike as most of us have imperfections within our bio-mechanics.
Hi Marshall,
You already know how I feel about the Hoka’s. I just wanted to comment as well since I was so fortunate to be provided with a pair of the hikers for our trip. I still feel they are the best hiking boot out there and suprisingly durable for the terrain we got through on them. Everyone should try Hoka One One shoes and boots. But especially for people with degenerative disc problems and herniated and ruptured discs like me. For those readers who have this problem I will tell you that I never had any pain associated with footwear like I have with other boots. The impact absorption is unbelieveable. For anyone undecided about trying a pair, just go out and buy them and you will not be let down.
Ah, my friend Dave speaks not with forked tongue. Hokas are the dream shoe!
“They are as close to riding a bike as you can get with a running shoe” – I like the way you put it. I think all running shoes should feel that way.
Hi Marshal,
great review, thank you. Im buying a pair online and havent got a clue regarding sizing. I currently run in the Asics Hyperspeed 5′s, and i wear a size 11.5 US. I want to buy the road shoes, the Bondi Speed, what size would you recommend i buy? Please help.
Thanks alot
Adie
Hi Adie, unless your forefoot is wide, you should be able to stick with the 11.5, if you have a wide forefoot, you may want to consider going up 1/2 size. Hope this helps!
Curious how many miles on average you get out of a pair of Hoka’s. Depending on terrain I can typically get 400-500 miles on the minimalist shoes I wear. I’m really interested in switching to the Hoka’s and would like to know what to expect for mileage. Thanks!
Hi Chris, I usually get between 300 and 400 miles on a pair of Hokas, but I’m unusually hard on shoes, breaking them down because of excessive pronation. I have heard of runners getting up to 500 or more miles on them, but of course be careful to replace shoes before they are worn out so as not to injure yourself.
Yeah, I’d love to know how many miles I could get out of a pair of Hokas too. Anyone available for comment?
Hope my answer helps you out, Kane!
Marshall,
Thanks for the blog. Regarding the Hoka’s: I’m a pronator and have worn montrails for years with custom orthotics. I have a really nasty habit of rolling ankles (I don’t even need a rock!). Do you think the Hoka’s would help or hurt the ankle rolling tendancy and do you think they will work with the orthotics?
Dan, initially the Hokas might complicate the problem, as they aren’t as stable from side to side. That’s the bad news. The good news is that Hokas will work with orthotics, and if you start out wearing them on smoother surfaces and graduate to trails and rougher surfaces, your ankles will get stronger with time–stronger than with the other shoes, probably–but be patient! Also do some strengthing exercises, as your ankles need to get stronger for running. *If* you do roll an ankle, I have found it is better to let it roll slightly and not be so intent on stopping the action by tightening your ankle muscles. Being flexible helps, so practice doing “circles” with your feet or rotate them 360 degress in a slow motion. Do this clockwise and then again counterclockwise 10 times X 3 reps for each foot. That should help. Good luck and let me know how it goes with your new shoes.
Hoka feels like a springboard. Tried to roll my foot on purpose and failed – very stable.
Find your perfect rhythm and go with the flow. Try to land on forefoot – it will give you the flying experience. Midfoot or even heel is OK but not nearly as beneficial. Narrow toebox leads to another discovery – ditch the insole and gain a great control on semi sticky substance underneath.
Smaller injuries are tolerable while running in Hoka, due to high level shock absorption (versus minimalistic shoes).
They easily form an addiction – just like riding a fast electric bike, they mess with your head.
Wojtek´s last [type] ..iON demonstrates newest additions to its Air Pro line
Glad you appreciate the Hokas. Better to mess with your head than your feet…right? Enjoy them and run long.
Dear Marshall,
I am buying into the craze for Hokas and would like to give them a try. Would you please explain to your non expert readers the bottom line differences among the available Hoka´s, the pros and cons of each? I love doing long (more than five hours) trail running on weekends, and train on pavement on week days. I´ve been a slow runner for 30 years, done 25 times the NYC marathon, 100 kms in the Sahara and 250 kms in Chile´s Atacama desert this year. Have gone from New Balance to Montrail Mountain Masochist, what would your advise on Hoka´s be? What style, or what styles, and what length, for ultra running in the Atacama desert again, next year?
Basically, the trail and road shoes are the same and have the same cushioning; the biggest difference is that the trail models have a narrower toe box, as the folks at Hoka believe that they are easier to maneuver over rough terrain and the tread is more aggressive. I prefer the road models, as they do have a wider toe box, and I don’t mind that the tread isn’t as aggressive–they grip fine for me on road or trail. If you have a wide foot, stick with the road shoe. And they’ll work perfect for Atacama, as they’ll offer unparalelled comfort over rocks and rough terrain. The bonus is they float over soft surface and sand! Good luck!
I ran hard (every day and raced every weekend) through last Winter in “normal shoes” and Inov-8s. I was badly crocked by February with Plantar Fasciitis and have spent all year slowly recovering. Maybe it is finally receding and maybe the Hokas have worked their magic. Bought a pair early Sept and I’m up to 80 mile weeks and racing again. The PF foot aches if I run hard in normal trainers but I can do 30 road/trail miles in my Evos. Thinking I must get a second pair to rotate them. Very impressed, and just delighted to be back running. Undoubtedly the lowered impact makes a huge difference; it was hitting my heel on hard ground (even though I am a midfoot striker) that set off the PF. Now its time to fly.
Sorry if that sounds like marketing flannel!
Best wishes
PB
Peter, run on, my friend. I’m glad the Hokas are working for you. Take care and stay healthy.
I LOVE my Hoka One Ones. These shoes truly are a new high tech runners shoe!
I am not a runner, but instead a middle aged guy with fussy feet—even so called “comfort” shoes often bother me after a few hours. I liked the lightweight comfort of running shoes and so use them as work shoes. the Hoka’s are incredible for comfort and light weight. I can go all day in these,and never have pain. In fact, the energy return given by these shoes makes me feel stronger and more ready to go!
Todd, yes, the Hoka One Ones are amazing! Dave and I also used these for our Death Valley National Park circumnavigation, and they performed wonderfully. Rocks underfoot were not a problem, and they floated on the sand. Glad you like them — they will keep you running longer and injury-free.
I am an Aussie Podiatrist who uses Hoka as a lightweight rocker shoe for all sorts of clinical problems. Generally, a splinting type orthotic will reduce its physiological effectiveness, problem is that the clinicians doing these type of orthotics in runners generally don’t have shoes at their clinic to observe the difference in their patients symptoms/gait parameters, so remain blissfully unaware of what most shoes are doing for their patients.http://www.drfootsolutions.com.au/further-reading Have you guys read the Stuart Miller article,posted here, about evidence of running shoe/foot type matching producing worse results in 2 studies than the control groups?I see patients all the time where even their walking shoes are maker them “sicker’ in a musculoskeletal sense.
Bronwyn, those are great articles addressing natural biomechanics being negatively affected by bad shoe construction. Hoka’s focus seems to be mimimizing impact and not trying to correct biomechanics. I have been impressed with them; however, I noticed the newer versions have narrowed the shoe box (sadly) as I agree with some of the findings that say when the foot is mushed into a tight shoebox, it loses its ablity to perform as it is meant to. Hokas seem to be, as I see it, a minimal shoe (that looks HUGE) that doesn’t offer support, leaving strengthing up to the wearer. I like this. I just hope they don’t buy into fashion over function.
Thanks for your valuable input.
These shoes seem very tall, off road I trend to go for a lower profile shoe to protect my ankles from rolling, how do the hoo’s compare?
Cheers shannon
Shannon,
Your foot does sit low in the shoe, but the Hoka outer sole is thick so you must be careful to strengthen your ankles before you go off road. That being said, Hoka’s do have a wider footprint so that does offer some increased stability, but be careful please.
good luck,
marsh
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Simply the best shoes for my long run days. Dare I say it, a 20 miler feels like a 10km! Great review Marshall.
Quick sizing question. With the Bondi B’s, have you had to size up from other brands? I’m a US 11.5 in Brooks, New Balance, Salomon etc. but the 2012 Bondi B in a size US 11.5 still feels snug, mainly width. Overall toe box length is fine.
Thanks!
Nick
Nick,
Yes, the Bondi B is narrower and some folks do size up 1/2 a size. I didn’t, but split the stiching down on either side of the tounge and that allowed me the extra room. I’m glad you like the shoes, run long and strong!
marsh
Marshall,
Thank you very much for the recommendation. I followed your advice and gave the Hoka One One Stinson B Evo a try. You can read about my experience with the Hoka on http://www.blueridegerunner.com Bottom line I am Hoka convert thanks to your review and comments. Eve and I both have highest respect for your experience and accomplishments so the recommendation rang home with bells and whistles.
Cheers,
Bartman
Bart,
Thanks for your comment and your post about them! I hope this helps other runners too.
cheers,
marsh
Marshall,
I crewed for a buddy running the Vol State 500 last night and he was wearing them. He spoke highly of these shoes. My question is this. Would you recommend the Hokas for a person like me. That meaning I run 3-4 days a week, anywhere from 3 to 13 miles. Will do the occasional 5k and a half every now and then. I have zero desire to run further given my arthritis in my feet. If you would which Hokas would you recommend?
Hi Kirk,
If you are running mostly on the road I like the Stinson’s. On a side note, you may find that the Hoka’s will minimize impact and help the pain associated with the arthritis in your feet.
cheers,
marsh
I resisted buying Hokas due to my vanity, their cost and the inability to try them on in the area where I live, but when my training partner posted his comment above, I took the chance, and had a pair shipped to me. Marshall, you were right. These strange looking polio-victimesque Bondi Bs have allowed me to run longer and faster. I might not be achieving elite status anytime soon, but I do know the starting line at Freedom’s Run Marathon is within my ultra-padded reach, and I suspect the finish is going to feel a lot better and come a lot more quickly for me in the Hokas. Exhaustion is relative when you’re running on a little pair of pogo sticks. Consider me converted to the cult of Hoka One One.
Signed,
Mark Renton’s Slow Ass Training Partner Who is Getting Faster So Watch Out.
Clythie,
So glad teh Hokas are working for you and you are getting faster and running longer.
marsh
I’m also a pronator, and I have been running in the most rigid, supportive Brooks shoes + custom orthotics for the past 8 years. I’ve been running for about 25 years total, since I was 15. Over the past year, I started having lots of nagging aches and pains, and I decided to take a chance on some Bondi B’s. I agree that they provide a completely different running experience, and overall, it’s been positive. However, I have had some soreness in spots that I’ve not experienced before, and I wondered if others have had a similar experience. Specifically, my quads are sore the day after most runs in the Bondi B’s, and sometimes my outer hips or gluts tighten up during the run. Any insights? And also, how do you know when these shoes are worn out?
Susan,
The Hokas work muscles that you normally wouldn’t because of the soft outer sole. Overall, you should be building muscle strength where you are sore over a month or so…in other words, sore is good! One way you can tell they are worn out, is to set them on a table with the rear facing you. Then look to see if they are still perpendicular to the table surface looking up from the bottom of the sole to the top of the shoe. If they vary more than a couple of degrees, then it’s likely you may need to replace them.
marsh
Correction to my last comment:
“I tried one of my pair of shoes a month ago”
should read “I tried one of my old pair of shoes a month ago”
How much vertical distance is there from the ground to your foot in these shoes? I ask this because I have converted to Vibram Five Fingers for the last 5 years and it has been great. I tried one of my pair of shoes a month ago and almost had an ankle sprain because of the height which gives you the ability to ‘roll’ off the shoe and twist something. One thing I like about VFF is that you practically cannot roll an ankle because of the negligible height.
I just completed my second 50 miler in the VFF, the Marin Ultra Challenge. One place the VFF do handicap me, however is in the downhills in such a race. The impact is hard to take on the downhills over a race like that with over 10k feet of both ascent and descent. With tougher or thicker shoes I will say that I can sort of land on the heel and slide / absorb energy in the shoe and not use my quads so much as a braking mechanism. Seems to me that heel strike is just a natural implication of the downhill grade and I love the VFF but take a hit on a long, often rocky downhill grade.
Hi David,
The VFF’s were orginally designed for a barefoot running feel. Unfortunately, I have seen a fair amount of injury caused by folks running on their forefoot, when that is not THEIR natural way of running. But, by you wearing the VFF’s they should have helped you develop some lateral control that would strengthen your ankles.
The Hoka’s will place the ball of your foot almost an inch off the ground, and they do have a wide footprint which helps stabilize your foot, but be careful to ease into them as they don’t have the best motion control and you can roll your ankle.
Point of interest: Did you know that the Hokas (branded, “time to fly”) were designed to help people “fly” down hills? And yes you are correct that your heel is what will land first running downhill and thus the impact that limits you. Once you have tried Hoka’s you will use your Five Fingers for what they were designed for…walking and strenghening, not running and will never go back. I would bet your speed increases and your legs will thank you too.
good luck,
marsh
FYI there is a fatty deposit on the heel of all of us humans that aids in cushioning…once that is gone, it is bone on (whatever) surface, and I have talked with some older runners who attest to that condition being very painful. So take care my friend and do what is best for YOU!
Thank you for your write up. I just did my first run in a pair of Evos. I got them because I’ve been having some knee pain (probably OA) and do not have it in me to stop training. I am a mid-to-forefoot striker and my first few steps were difficult. The shoes forced me to revert to my old heel-striking form from years past, and for a few steps at least, it felt painless. Normally, the thought of a heel-strike sends shudders of pain through my knee. I was able to get to a mid-foot strike, but because I could not quite get the flexibility in the forefoot, my pace and lean were curtailed. But, for long runs, this is not a problem for me. As of this writing, an hour or so after my run, the knee is pain free.
Now, I’m starting to get paranoid. While I can run more with an injury in these shoes, will my adaptation to running stress start to decline. You said when you went back to normal shoes for a run, you were sore. This is now my fear. That I’ll lose strength in my legs. I plan to wear these until I feel no knee pain and then gradually do short runs in “normal” shoes until I can alternate, doing only the long runs in the Hokas.
I do love the Hoka’s, but I wonder if it’s too much of a good thing. What do you think?
I’m fat and 49.
I get knee and pack pain walking two miles. I use MBT and the Sketcher
variant for walking. Not because I think they’re gonna shape my flabby butt but because
the cushioning they provide for my feet, knees and back. But man are they heavy. After
two months of regular walking 2 miles I’ve started jog-plodding one mile and walking
a mile. Searching for something lighter than the MBT I found Hoka. Futhur googling
and I saw that the name is mentioned by some of those crazy ultra runners. I figured that
pain is pain, no matter if its from an ultra fit guy running 100 miles or a guy 85lbs
overweight struggling through 2 miles.
I’ve been using the Hoka B’s for two weeks now and I still have knee and back pain but
much less so than when I was jog-plodding in shoes from Brooks and New Balance.
Brooks and New Balance make great shoes. When I was young and fit I put many pain
free miles on my feet wearing Brooks shoes. But now carrying all those miles and all
this extra weigh, the Hoka is a real help.
P.S. This blog is really inspirational.
Thanks for your comment…it wouln’t surprise me to hear that your back continues to improve wearing Hoka’s as they have a 7 degree (or so) lift, so they put your foot in a more natural position. I disagree that 0 degree is the best based on experience and talking with professional shoe manufatures/fitters.
marsh
I am loving the Hokas – using both the Stinson B Evo trail shoes and the Bondi B road shoes. I alternate runs in VFFs on easier/shorter days (30-60 mins) and then wear the Hokas for longer runs (anything an hour plus) – the former turns into kind of a strength day, and the Hoka/longer runs are pure running pleasure. What I like most is that the Hokas achieve this remarkable cushioning without sacrificing stability – if anything, the big footprint makes them more stable than normal trail shoes. You end up doing a lot less “tap dancing” on rougher ground than in a minimal shoe – you can just motor on. Similar to the difference between riding a hardtail MTB and full suspension w/fat tires. The minimal drop translates to the same basic stride mechanics whether I’m in minimalist VFFs or the Hokas. I definitely notice the same absense of muscle soreness post-long-run that Marshall describes. So thankful I found these remarkable shoes.
Jim,
BINGO and thank you!
marsh
Thanks Jim, Glad you like the shoes…I become more and more convinced that these are the shoes for me.
marsh
I am one of those people who slowly moved to “less” shoe with great success. And I still log plenty of road miles in Newtons and racing flats…
But any time the run is over 12 miles, I strap on my Bondi Bs. And for the trails, my Evos.
Yes, these shoes are plush, but their heel is relatively low so the truth is you don’t have to change form. I get strange looks from guys who are out in less show but with a big clunky heel and I think to myself, “If you guys would try these, you’d see they werent a gimmick. ”
I recently finished the Big Sur Marathon for the third year in a row. It was my first in Hokas. When the race was over, my legs felt fresh. And the next day, zero fatigue in the knees or quads.
I recently got my wife a pair and now she’s a believer too.
Spot on and thank you!
Started with Bondi last year while suffering from plantar fasciitis. Disliked the shoes initially, but became a believer when I got used to the new design and the pf disappeared. Also tried Mafate, but EVO is clearly the winner in terms of fit and comfort based on Paris Marathon and a recent 50K trail run. I’ll wear EVO in Trail del Monte Soglio 63K, Trail Verbier StBernard 110K and CCC 100K this summer. My old shoes are no good anymore.
Trail Plodder´s last [type] ..Camel lesson
Way to go trail plodder, your cranking with some good venues.
marsh
I was hoping for all of the love and joy that seem to emanate from the newbie Hoka experience, but it didn’t happen. I like others have some metatarsal pain and wanted to utilize these to keep up some amount of mileage while fixing the injury.
First run out in the shoes – immediate metatarsal pain again. I thought, maybe at worst the pain would be slower in coming or at best just be gone completely. Big bummer. I might take them back and just get in the pool.
Mid foot strike and forget running on the forefoot if you are…my best and good luck!
marsh
I really want to believe that these shoes are better than the current paradigm, but I’m still skeptical. Marshall, your endorsement is one of the most convincing because of your jaw dropping resume’. I can only imagine the range of shoes that you’ve tried over the years. But the thing that I keep coming back to is the comment that so many people make about the shoes absorbing so much wear and tear that your body would normally have to take. If the shoe does that much work for you, then what kind of adaptations will your body undergo after years of wearing them? To put it into another context, we’re just now starting to see the effects that our office chairs have on our bodies. Terrible things. “But, I didn’t experience NEARLY as much muscle fatigue at the end of my working day after using the chair instead of standing.” The Hokas aren’t nearly as dramatic as the difference between standing at your desk vs. sitting, but you get the drift. Don’t get me wrong; I WANT these shoes to be the next major jump forward since cavemen strapped on used tires. But my sense of skepticism for things that are seemingly miraculous is pretty high, regardless of whether it’s running barefoot or strapping on moon boots.
Great comment. Let’s just say that a chair is an adaptation that we have made over the years from sitting or leaning with our backs on rocks, why wouldn’t we want to sit in a chair…that’s something I longed for while running across America. Those simple pleasures. I can’t imagine sleeping on a dirt floor either (even though I’ve slept in some pretty nasty places) my bed works just fine. And the Hoka’s make my knees feel soooooo much better. The older I get the more I notice that cushioning is the key. When I was younger, the lightest shoe was the best, because it made me go faster. What I didn’t realize that faster is not better, running longer is the current goal for me. Thanks for your comment
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marsh
Munchabunch – I’ve the same concern that you’ve outlined; essentially that overtime these shoes would erode the natural adaptations I’ve gained from running in a more natural/minimal running shoe. Because of this, and frankly because I could not afford to use Hokas as my daily trainer, I still do the majority of my running in minimalist shoes, which I believe contribute to good running form and overall agility. Where I see the gaining the most benefit from using Hokas is in using them for longer runs, 50+ miles, where the beating my feet are subjected to leads to a long recovery process. My thinking is that this approach of alternating between types of shoes will allow me to reap the benefits of Hokas, without losing the positive adaptations I gain from running in more minimalist shoes. Guess I’m just trying to have it both ways
Sounds like a logical/reasonable approach.
marsh
Jeremy, thanks for the feedback. I’ve heard enough good things from great runners that I can’t just discount the shoes as a fad. My thought was that they might be integrated into training only enough to make sure you wouldn’t hurt yourself with them during a race. Then, either race in them or reserve them for the second half of races. For me, by the time I get 20 hours into a race my form has gone to hell anyway so I doubt Hokas are going to hurt me any worse than I’m already hurting myself.
Ha! Good comment and sound theory!
my best,
marsh
I got my first pair of Stinson Evo’s last month and can’t say enough good things about them! I was sceptical but thought that I couldn’t pass judgement without trying them… I went and ran 43km (trail running) on my 1st day out in them & they felt amazing. I’ve worn Asics, then NB & recently converted to Salomon S-labs and Speedcross but these new Hoka’s are the shoe. I am that happy with them already that I will wear them in next week’s North Face 100 Ultra through the Blue Mountains in N.S.W, Australia.
And your legs will not feel as beat up, I promise. Good luck!
marsh
I still run in my VFF Bikilas and my Saucony Kinvaras (barefoot and minimal), but I LOVE my Mafates and my Stinson Evos. For trail running I haven’t worn anything else since I got the Mafates last year and the Stinsons recently.
Sounds like a good combo you have going. Keep those feet moving down the trail and road!
marsh
So Steph, do you run say 3-4 times a week say 6-9 miles in your minimal shoes and then run 2 times a week say 15-20 milers in the Hokas? I just bought a pair of Stinsons and this is what I feel may be what I’ll do. The Hokas do feel heavy the first time out compared to my NB mt110′s!
I lost 6 toe nails……
I got a pair of Hoka One One. They felt great right away. After less than 1 k of running I was confident and happy about the shoe – so much cushioning. This would be great for ultras. Size was 1/2 a size bigger than my normal size. When comparing the insoles, they were the same size. Usual (plenty of) space for my toes.
I used them for a 64 K road ultra in Connemara, Ireland.
I lost 6 toe nails because of blisters under the nails after that run. I haven’t got a clue why. I usually don’t do that. I still find the shoes comfortable – but I doubt that I will use them for this years Comrades down-run.
Bo, see you at Comrades. Usually toenail loss is caused by too tight or not wide enough shoe box. The shoe will not make much of a difference, just make sure you have plenty of room. Oh, and running down steep hills doesn’t help…still I’m looking forward to the down year at Comrades! My best.
marsh
I recently wrote the following testimonial on the Hoka Evo, and emailed it to Johnny at the Boulder Running Company; was just in there today, picking up my second pair of Evo’s:
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I have been wearing Hoka’s exclusively for almost 2 years now, and have 2 pairs of Mafate’s, 1 pair of Mafate water proof (which I prefer in winter using Kahtoola Microspikes), and a pair of Bondi-B (road shoe), and recently bought a pair of Hoka Stinson Evo’s. Because of a knee injury, I am running for the first time in 30 years because of the incomparable impact reduction of the Hoka’s mid-sole. There is NO high impact! I primarily do trail running. I want to comment primarily on the Hoka Evo here; this is the latest addition to the Hoka family of running shoes. After trail running in the Hoka Stinson Evo for several months now, it is my opinion that this is the best Hoka ever designed (for trails; the Bondi is still preferable for road running). The Evo has a fit and feel that makes it more comfortable than, and superior to the Mafate. The fit is snug, but not tight, and VERY comfortable. It holds your foot in place, so your foot does not slide around at all inside the shoe. It is also a more nimble shoe, most likely because the front half of the shoe is narrower, and it is also lighter in weight. The snug fit and nimble feel makes it easier and more precise to navigate technical rocky terrain with greater confidence and control. The outer sole has a tread design that is superior and provides better traction on steep or slippery trail surfaces. And, I really like the speed lacing system. I love this shoe, and I particularly like the design with “Hoka OneOne” in big blue letters on the side of the shoe, with a white background. From a design stand point, this is the best looking shoe EVER! I will be buying a second pair of these shoes very soon.
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[yes; purchased my 2nd pair today]
Don’t know if you remember me; Deb Conley and I ran into you at the Colorado Sportswomen Hall of Fame award banquet in Denver, March 2011.
I’m doing a 60k trail race, but it’s not too technical. Would you recommend the trail or road model? I do a lot of my running on the road, so I’d like them to be appropriate for other stuff as well.
Hi, Josh! The road shoes will do just fine for non-technical trail running. Good luck with your 60K run!
Deb, YES I remember you! what a great evening. Thanks for your comment. Very well thought out and I love the detail.
My best,
marsh
Does anyone know of an online retailer for Hoka One One’s for women? Runningwarehouse.com has them for men only. I’ve notice some men wearing them at the ultra races.
Yes, they are having trouble keeping them in stock. It’s going to be THE next shoe that folks want and deservingly so.
cheers,
marsh
Just got a pair of Bondi-B’s at Zappos!
zombierunner.com or boulderrunningcompany.com , if stock is available! These shoes are flying out the door everywhere!
THANKS! a bunch!!!
I have had plantar faciitis for over a year now and have not been able to rid myself of this ailment. My ART guy (a two time Ironman finisher) recommened the Bondi’s to me based on my injury. I was at a point with my traditional stability shoe that had was not able to run without significant pain afterwords. With the Hoka’s, I have been able to run a few, short days a week in these shoes until I get my foot straightened out. The Hoka’s have allowed me to keep my sanity until I can run seriously again. I can’t wait to be in a situation where I can really test them over more miles. Love these shoes!
Yes they have just the right arch support that allows the foot to flex naturally. They have helped my Plantar Faciitis too. Thanks for your comment.
marsh
Agreed, Hokas are indeed great shoes. I went from doing most of my ultra racing in minimal shoes and just recently made the switch to wearing Hokas. In my first race wearing them, the Moab 100, I bested my previous years time by nearly 6 hours, set a PR of 21:17, and won my first 100 mile race. Couldn’t have been more pleased. Recovery went so well that I was able to go on to win the inaugural Coyote Springs 100 mile race the following weekend in 22 hours flat. Needless to say, I’m certainly a Hoka believer and a evangelizer now.
Jemery,
Wow, that’s fantastic. I’ve found I recover so much faster and my legs just don’t get beat up anymore.
thanks for commenting,
marsh
I have been interested in these for the last couple of weeks after having seen that Karl Meltzer and Dave Mackey have been using them with great success. After a year of IT band stress, stone bruises, and walking away from my long runs crippled, I will have to say that the pendulum has finally swung the other direction. I have officially retired my more minimalist footwear in replacement of more protection. Bam! Better performance all the way around…. and I am getting faster! However, I do have a question in response to your experience of returning to your old favorites after many months of running in the Hoka’s. I am currently running in Salomon XR Crossmax (which are also designed for high mileage running) and find that I have the same experience when I suddenly decide to you run in my Saucony trainers. Around mile 16, I begin to feel some fatigue in my knee joints and lower legs…. which I have attributed to my lower legs losing some strength as a result of wearing more protection. Do you think there is any validity in this? Even now as I am writing this, I am wondering if it even matters? At any rate, I do know that more protection for me has meant more consistent training. The Hokas certainly peak my interest. Also, my slow ass training partner wants to know if she will become an elite runner with lightning speed if she begins wearing these?
Ha, Mark, tell your slow ass training partner that she doesn’t have to fear being an elite runner if she wears Hoka’s. She just may get a bit faster though.
To answer your question, the Hoka’s are actually a minimalist shoe, they just happen to have 80% cusioning…and your foot is constantly having to adapt to foot strike just as you would with a minimal shoe. The great thing about Hoka’s is that they force your foot into a neutral position, just about no matter how your strike. No, you will not loose tone by wearing them and your recover will be better and you won’t get injuried as much wearing them. I’m convinced of this.
cheers and happy running,
marsh
Marsh, I double up on u n Karl. I have many differnent shoes, some more minimal than others, but it took 1 2mile trail loop in Hokas for me to become a believer. These r gonna be my go to shoes this comming Saturday at the Ice Age 50 mile.
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Good on you and I love your diet blog and agree with what you have to say…good lean protien and some fats cutting back on carbos (yea, normal food).
cheers,
marsh
So true Marshall! These shoes are incredible…really that good! I have been running for 30 years and it is just amazing how good these feel and with no fatigue. Try them and you will never go back to the “dark ages”.
YEPPERS.
marsh
my sentiments exactly, I ran around the block when they were first given to me…..sold. I will never go back to anything else. Think of my Pony Express run, 2064 miles 53 a day. I was never sore, I recover quickly, and the shoe is part of the reason. Other than I am a freak. The Bondi’s rock!
Karl,
I agree and you should know about shoes! Congratulations on the Pony Express run…wish I would have had some Hoka’s in 2008 for my trans con ;-(
cheers,
marsh
Marsh
I love my Hokas! I started with the Bondi B and they made an immediate impact on my running. My recovery is better and I can handle more mileage. I also got a pair of the Stinson EVO XT combo. Also good but not quite as comfy and soft as the Bondi B. I am a believer and can’t imagine using any other shoe now.
And they will treat you well this summer for THE long run you are about to do!
marsh
This was one of the first articles i read before taking the leap to Hoka. For the past 4 years I’ve been on the minimal kick. Kinvara for road, Inov8 290 for trail. After a serious tendinitis bout last spring, which came on and off though out the year, i began rethinking minimal. After it came back in Oct. following a mini, I took the leap. Got some Stinson EVO, and was back to running in that week. Since getting them i have put in more miles/week then I ever have, no injuries. Feet feel WONDERFUL after long runs. I’ve only worn the Kinvaras a few times since, and only for speed work. Inov8′s are collecting dust. I just got my Bondi S last week, and once the rain stops I’ll be out in those. CAN’T WAIT.
Thanks for the comments, Zach. I’m glad to hear that the Hokas are working for you, too. Although we all have individual needs as far as shoes go, I do think the Hokas provide valuable impact minimization.